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 Post subject: Re: Most Valuable Guitar
 Post Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 11:05 pm 
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Gary,
I love your post! LMAO!
As for most valuable guitar- let's not forget George's 360-12! How many musicians has THAT guitar inspired!?


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 Post subject: Re: Most Valuable Guitar
 Post Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:36 am 
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A fairly recent edition of Guitarist magazine tried to do a round up of the "most valuable" guitars and came up with Hendrix's Woodstock strat (currently in Seattle?) with an estimated value of £5m. Also mentioned were Jimmy Page's main Les Paul (estimated £2m), Brian May's Red Special & David Gilmour's 00001 Strat. I'd have ANY of the above....then sell it & buy a shed load of Rickys ;-)


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 Post subject: Re: Most Valuable Guitar
 Post Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:46 am 
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I would bet that Lennon's '58 and '64 325s are the two most valuable guitars in the world. They certainly are to RIC. :-)


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 Post Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:58 pm 
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A fairly recent edition of Guitarist magazine tried to do a round up of the "most valuable" guitars and came up with Hendrix's Woodstock strat (currently in Seattle?) with an estimated value of £5m. Also mentioned were Jimmy Page's main Les Paul (estimated £2m), Brian May's Red Special & David Gilmour's 00001 Strat. I'd have ANY of the above....then sell it & buy a shed load of Rickys ;-)


Did that issue of Guitarist magazine mention either of John Lennon's 325 Ric's? I gotta believe either of them would be much more valuable.


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 Post subject: Re: Most Valuable Guitar
 Post Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:53 pm 
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Brian May's guitar or Gilmour's #00001 Strat would be morth much more than Lenon's guitars just on rarity and age alone. If Lenon's were unique in some way (other than the sanding John subjected them to) they'd be in that range.


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 Post subject: Re: Most Valuable Guitar
 Post Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 4:33 am 
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Did that issue of Guitarist magazine mention either of John Lennon's 325 Ric's? I gotta believe either of them would be much more valuable.

I think the problem putting a value of Lennon's 325s is that 1) he didn't use either of them for very long (compared say to McCartney's use of his 4001 or Hofners), 2) he used a lot of other guitars (Gibson J160E, Casino, Strat, D-28, etc), and 3) with all due respect to him, he isn't considered to be in the same league as a guitarist as Clapton, Beck, SRV, Hendrix, etc.

But if they were available, and a collector with a lot of money wanted them, nothing would surprise me!

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 Post subject: Re: Most Valuable Guitar
 Post Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:52 am 
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I like to "accumulate" guitars, but I am no means a collector of vintage guitars, so I may be talking out of my hat here.

But I have to believe that JL's Ric's would go for a ton more than a Brian May, for example, or Steve Stills' White Falcon, or even a Pete Townshend Ric. I think the value of a piece like this doesn't lay just with the natural abilities of the guitarist. But with Lennon's Rics, it's all about something else -- the birth of something, the images we -- of an age -- all remember so vividly, the changes in our culture that started with "THEM".

Are Hendrix' Woodstock & Monterey Pop Strats more valuable the Clapton's ES-335, which is more valuable than Chet Atkins' Gretsches, which were more valuable than Alvino Rey's pedal steel....

I'm not making the mistake of deifying the Beatles or Lennon. But -- they represented something that changed us, and to those of us who were "inspired" by them and others to take up guitar, those 3 instruments -- Hofner, Gretsch, and Ric -- are the burned-in images of our youth.

If I had unlimited funds and I had the chance to buy V81 or Clapton's Gibson or McGuinn's Ric...there's no contest. Are those other two better guitarists than Lennon? Again, no question.

But that's not the point.


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 Post subject: Re: Most Valuable Guitar
 Post Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:24 pm 
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I wonder if this is an age thing ... for those of us over 50, seeing the Beatles - especially John Lennon with his 325 on Ed Sullivan changed our lives. Sure John played other guitars, but for me at least, when I think of Lennon I think of the black 325 that appears on the early Beatle album covers. Hendrix, SRV, Brian May etc. may be better guitar players, but in terms of significance to the baby boom generation, they don't compare to Lennon.


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 Post subject: Re: Most Valuable Guitar
 Post Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:24 pm 
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I wonder if this is an age thing ... for those of us over 50, seeing the Beatles - especially John Lennon with his 325 on Ed Sullivan changed our lives.


I think it might be a "geography" thing too. I think The Beatles' impact on the USA was much more of a "Big Bang" event than it was in the UK. I'm in my fifties too and grew up in Liverpool. Back then there were many other excellent bands in the city (The Escorts and The Big Three spring to mind) who many considered then to be equally as good. Because of this the desire, for me anyway, to go out an buy a Gretsch, Hofner bass or Rick, just wasn't there.

And in saying this I don't wish to put down The Beatles in any way; their song writing and subsequent impact on music world-wide speaks for itself.


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 Post subject: Re: Most Valuable Guitar
 Post Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:49 pm 
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I think it might be a "geography" thing too. I think The Beatles' impact on the USA was much more of a "Big Bang" event than it was in the UK.


I'm so glad I was at the age and in the US when it happened. It was an amazing experience to be hit with those images (on Ed Sullivan's show) and sounds at that time in my life (I was 9). Like someone hit me in the face with a 2x4 and said, "here's the future, kid".

Seeing it in black and white heightened the experience. It gave them a more cohesive, unified appearance. Much like the Jagger quote about the Beatles showing up like a "four headed monster".

I can't imagine any guitar being worth more than Lennon's Sullivan show Ric. He, they and that guitar are icons of the 20th century. It goes beyond music and whether he played as well as Clapton or Gilmore or anyone.

His subsequent non-rics may get honorable mention, but none are as identified with him as That Guitar.


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