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 Post subject: Tuning problem, please help
 Post Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:06 am 
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My Ric 370/12 has an odd problem. My standard G string tunes fine, but the the 'high G' string cannot be tuned to G. I am only able to tune it to E. Tuning it down brings it to Bb, and tuning it past E causes it to snap every time. The bridge looks fine, as does the rest of the guitar, and I am using the standard issue .010 string for the high G as provided by Ric. Please tell me what's wrong here. Thanks.


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 Post subject: Re: Tuning problem, please help
 Post Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:44 am 
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My Ric 370/12 has an odd problem. My standard G string tunes fine, but the the 'high G' string cannot be tuned to G. I am only able to tune it to E. Tuning it down brings it to Bb, and tuning it past E causes it to snap every time. The bridge looks fine, as does the rest of the guitar, and I am using the standard issue .010 string for the high G as provided by Ric. Please tell me what's wrong here. Thanks.


Howdy,

I had the same problem initially with my 12 string Rics. The easiest solution for me was to simply use a .009 gauge for the octave G. It works for me. Some folks may even suggest an .008. You can get a D'Addario single string at just about any music store for about $1.

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 Post subject: Re: Tuning problem, please help
 Post Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:34 pm 
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Does the string break in the same spot every time? If so, where - At the bridge, the nut?


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 Post subject: Re: Tuning problem, please help
 Post Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 7:48 pm 
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My Ric 370/12 has an odd problem. My standard G string tunes fine, but the the 'high G' string cannot be tuned to G. I am only able to tune it to E. Tuning it down brings it to Bb, and tuning it past E causes it to snap every time. The bridge looks fine, as does the rest of the guitar, and I am using the standard issue .010 string for the high G as provided by Ric. Please tell me what's wrong here. Thanks.


I'm using a D'darrio .10 12 string set and the high G is a .7 guage. No problems as yet, and there's a spare high G that comes in the pack (I don't know if all string manufacturers offer this though).

Just my 2 pence


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 Post subject: Re: Tuning problem, please help
 Post Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:17 pm 
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This should not be happening.Check for a sharp place on your tuner post,nut or saddle.I have three RIC 12 strings,and this has never happened to me.


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 Post subject: Re: Tuning problem, please help
 Post Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:46 am 
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This should not be happening.Check for a sharp place on your tuner post,nut or saddle.


Agree 100%. Even I know this as broken-string diagnostics 101.


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 Post subject: Re: Tuning problem, please help
 Post Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:05 am 
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Sorry, that came out a little nastier than I intended.
But I would send it to a tech and have them look for something that could be cutting into the string.

The High G is just one those strings (because it is so thin) that is going to pop every once in a while. But it shouldn't happen each time you tune.

There are some acoustic 12-string players who do away with the high G because it is now the highest string on the guitar and gives a different sound to chords than a six-string, where the high E is the highest note. Do know of any electric 12ers who do that. But could be I suppose.

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 Post subject: Re: Tuning problem, please help
 Post Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:06 am 
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Do know of any electric 12ers who do that. But could be I suppose.


That was supposed to say -

I don't know any electric 12ers who do that.

[I admit, I am a horrible typist.]


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 Post subject: Re: Tuning problem, please help
 Post Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:17 am 
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Double check the nut. It sound like the string is being "pinched". A couple of swipes with sand paper on the SIDES of the nut slot and a drop a machine oil should help.


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 Post subject: Re: Tuning problem, please help
 Post Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:44 am 
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No, no, no! Please not oil! It will get into the guitar fingerboard and start deterioration. Don't use graphite, either, unless you want Jetglo all over the place.

Cub Scouts for quite a number of years now have the best solution for their Pinewood Derby cars: powdered teflon. You can buy a small tube cheaply at any scout distributor, or on line. When my son made his car, I used some on my guitar nuts as well as his cars, and life and tuning could not be any better.

BTW: he won his den and got overall 5th in the entire pack as a Tiger!


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