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 Post subject: Re: Johnny Marr - Falling in love with the guitar
 Post Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:20 pm 
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Can we get back to Johnny Marr as related to Rickenbacker instruments? Or this might be:
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 Post subject: Re: Johnny Marr - Falling in love with the guitar
 Post Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:43 pm 
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Well, in relation to "Johnny Marr as related to Rickenbacker instruments," he played some masterful songs on one. I would say he played more complicated numbers on other brands, but the Rickenbacker made songs like "Headmaster Ritual" possible.


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 Post subject: Re: Johnny Marr - Falling in love with the guitar
 Post Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 1:40 am 
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Schmidt wrote:
Rickissippi wrote:
Incredible. What a master.



I believe we slowly devalue our languages by using superlatives to describe average events. Is Marr really a master?

He strums three chords in two different voicings - and that's exactly what any average guitar player can do - so that you can't hear the difference. It's a great sound - but it has nothing to with being a master in my book.


then your book should be revisioned.

nobody ever had built such beautiful such complex (and effective) architectures made by dozens and dozens of jangly and chiming layers of different arrangements, open tunings, finger picking, acoustics, 12 strings, slide guitars etc that come together like pieces of a beautiful mosaic...he simply is a living dictionary of everything that has been good, nice and just on the electric guitar history from the 50's on...just listen to girl afraid and tell me if that's what you call "three chords in two different voicings".


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 Post subject: Re: Johnny Marr - Falling in love with the guitar
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Except, Peter Buck, who did it on Murmur. Others have done it before both of them too.

There's much more to Marr than a few chords. "This Charming Man" is an incredibly difficult song to play for anyone at any level. Even Marr has difficulty with it these days.

But, he always put Morrisey first, because he believes that the singer is the important part of a band. I've seen him play some amazing things outside of the Smiths that Morrisey and the others probably wouldn't allow. There's a distinct difference between being a good player and showing off, and being a great player and inhibiting yourself.


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 Post subject: Re: Johnny Marr - Falling in love with the guitar
 Post Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 10:38 am 
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I reckon I know how he gets that really lovely ringing sound on There is a light...I think it's a pitch shifter. I got on off ebay last month and when i add that to some chorus, comp, delay etc it has the same shimmering dreamlike tone.


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David..Uk1971 wrote:
I reckon I know how he gets that really lovely ringing sound on There is a light...I think it's a pitch shifter. I got on off ebay last month and when i add that to some chorus, comp, delay etc it has the same shimmering dreamlike tone.

He uses a Boss GT-5, so it's probably from there.


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 Post subject: Re: Johnny Marr - Falling in love with the guitar
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it's definitely a pitch shifter on the video.

usually pitch shifters sound nasty digital, that's probably the only use of them I've ever heard that just sounds right.


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 Post subject: Re: Johnny Marr - Falling in love with the guitar
 Post Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 11:25 am 
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ThisCharmingMan wrote:
it's definitely a pitch shifter on the video.

usually pitch shifters sound nasty digital, that's probably the only use of them I've ever heard that just sounds right.


The secret is to use it at a very low level. The speed level, on a scale of let's say, 1 to 12 should be on no more than 1-2. (slight turn from off to clockwise and that's it). That's why I bought it off Ebay-pointless to pay full price when I only want it to do that one small thing..........What a difference that one small thing makes though!
(like salt or chilli on food-just a touch and not too much :lol: )


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 Post subject: Re: Johnny Marr - Falling in love with the guitar
 Post Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 7:15 pm 
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That's assuming that the GT-5 has the same settings are your pitch shifter.


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 Post subject: Re: Johnny Marr - Falling in love with the guitar
 Post Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 12:40 am 
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That's the best way for the one I play..don't know about the GT-5 (although mine is a Boss PS 5 so probably similar settings)

(both discontinued as well if i'm not wrong-GT5 and Boss PS5)


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