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 Post subject: Put a R tailpiece on 325v59
 Post Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 9:53 am 
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It's possible to put a R tailpiece to replace a bigsby, because I have some problems to stay in tune when I play live.And I have this old R tailpiece from a 90's 620.


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 Post subject: Re: Put a R tailpiece on 325v59
 Post Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 5:32 pm 
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I'm sure it's possible, and perhaps easy. Don't know if all the abandoned screw holes left from the Bigsby will be hidden by the new tailpiece, though.
Once your strings are stretched out and the Bigsby is kept lubed, it shouldn't cause too much tuning problems though (unless you use it for vibrato).
;-)

Always come UP to pitch when tuning, right?
It sets the slack in the machines against the string pull. Kinda important (especially with vintage Kluson style), and will cure a host of tuning ills.

Very rarely do I find even old cheap tuning machines that are actually slipping.

I did have an Accent vibrato on a 325V63 that gave me fits though!


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 Post subject: Re: Put a R tailpiece on 325v59
 Post Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 9:25 pm 
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It could be your strings. What guage strings are you using?


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 Post subject: Re: Put a R tailpiece on 325v59
 Post Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:37 am 
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It could be your strings. What guage strings are you using?

Hi ! 010 to 046 Fender super 250s nickel plated steel like my others guitars


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 Post subject: Re: Put a R tailpiece on 325v59
 Post Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:31 am 
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Eek! Yeah, it's your strings that are causing the issues. You need a certain tension on strings on any guitar to maintain proper and stable tuning (especially with trems to balance out the spring tension). 10s are the minimum suggested guage on a 24 3/4" scale for normal tuning... I use 10s on my 24" scale guitars to tune up to A for soprano guitar duty, with 13s for normal tuning on a 24".

I'd say try out a set of 13s on that guitar and you'll probably still be lower tension than on a Strat with 10s... but the tuning stability will be FAR better. My personal preference on that scale would be about 16s or so (GHS makes 'em I know).


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 Post subject: Re: Put a R tailpiece on 325v59
 Post Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:52 am 
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Definitely need .13s on a short scale guitar like the 325v59 or 325c58. What's weird is thy don't feel super fat on the short scale guitar.

13s on my c58 feel like .11s on my Epiphone Casino. You should notice a huge difference in the disappearance of tuning issues. I can even do some bends down in the barr A/D areas or lower.

The c58s and v59s aren't exactly lead guitar material for playing above the octave, but mine is a great little rock n' roll strummer.

Try .13s, I think you'll be surprised.


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 Post subject: Re: Put a R tailpiece on 325v59
 Post Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 2:28 am 
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Definitely need .13s on a short scale guitar like the 325v59 or 325c58. What's weird is thy don't feel super fat on the short scale guitar.

13s on my c58 feel like .11s on my Epiphone Casino. You should notice a huge difference in the disappearance of tuning issues. I can even do some bends down in the barr A/D areas or lower.

The c58s and v59s aren't exactly lead guitar material for playing above the octave, but mine is a great little rock n' roll strummer.

Try .13s, I think you'll be surprised.


Thanks, for the first in my life I'll try the .13s. Never have a guage like that before,.By the way, would you suggest the same guage for a Gretsch Roundup with bigsby ( presently 010 to 046) because I play a lot of leads with this guitar. .11s like your Epiphone better than .10 and easy to make a lot of bendings ?? Thanks for the answer.


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 Post subject: Re: Put a R tailpiece on 325v59
 Post Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:34 am 
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i thought i read somewhere Lennon used .12 or .13 on his
325 ...anyone can confirm the gauge ?


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 Post subject: Re: Put a R tailpiece on 325v59
 Post Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 6:44 pm 
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By the way, would you suggest the same guage for a Gretsch Roundup with bigsby ( presently 010 to 046) because I play a lot of leads with this guitar. .11s like your Epiphone better than .10 and easy to make a lot of bendings ?? Thanks for the answer.


Remember your problem is not the Bigsby vibrato, so if the Gretsch is NOT a short scale guitar like 325 (and I assume it isn't) you could keep on tryin' 0.10 as in your other instruments.

Cheers, V84.


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