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 Post subject: Re: 625/12
 Post Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:16 pm 
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If you want to see it up close and personal,you'll have to travel to the Rock'n'Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland where it's actually on display.


Better travel in a time machine. The exhibit "Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers: Thirty Years of Rock and Roll" including the '63 Rickenbacker 625/12 opened on June 30, 2006 and ran until June 10, 2007.

http://www.rockhall.com/exhibitnew/tom-petty/


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 Post Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 1:40 am 
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What is the difference between a 620/12 and a 625/12?
This was clearly a mistake or mischaracterization in the original paperwork. Richard Smith simply copied that info in his book.

The guitar was obviously a 620/12, or at least what became the 620/12.


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 Post subject: Re: 625/12
 Post Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 3:39 am 
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What is the difference between a 620/12 and a 625/12?
This was clearly a mistake or mischaracterization in the original paperwork. Richard Smith simply copied that info in his book.

The guitar was obviously a 620/12, or at least what became the 620/12.


Perhaps this 1963 600 series 12-string guitar was designated as a 625/12 (by characterization or mischaracterization) because at that time in 1963 Rickenbacker manufactured a 615 and a 625, and I don't recall the 620 being available yet. Since the guitar has two pickups and deluxe features, like the 625, it was possibly named a 625/12 as it became the first 600 series 12-stringer.

This model certainly is "technically" a 620/12 based on the fact there is no vibrato, however, there are a few more Rickenbacker guitars including George Harrison's 6-string 425, John Lennon's 325/12 and the more recent 355JL and 355/12JL that also have the same distinction. I think these model number "oddities" are a part of the colorful Rickenbacker history.

I have seen this '63 Rickenbacker 600 series 12-stringer called a 625/12, a 620/12 and I've read an interview with Mike Campbell, who owns this guitar and he called it a 660/12. Whatever model number one chooses to call this guitar, it's a Rickenbacker!


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 Post Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 3:57 am 
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I just call mine cool, and thank Paul for doing it up for me (it needed major work even without the mods. I believe it is a 1980 model. The original case was fairly well smashed up, not worn but smashed), JH and everyone at Rick for building it originally, and the academy because one always thanks the academy even if they choose films with bad scripts as "best picture." Did I forget anyone? Okay, Mike C. for rescuing the original and he and T.P. for bringing the electric 12 back and, at the time, taking the Saturday Night Fever Sountrack on, head on, which as anyone who was there at the time remembers was very hard to escape from (okay, impossible.) That and "the Wall" which I believe TP said he hated if for no other reason kept his LP with this guitar on the cover from being #1. I'll take Torpedoes over it any day of the week, even if the former is my namesake (I took a bit of flack for it at the time, from guys in a band I was in. We did some Heartbreakers covers and no Floyd. We had a few RIcks in that band of course) I guess I was not partying it up hard enough to grasp the full meaning of latter day Floyd circa '79.


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So in a nut shell, the Petty Signature I got will be the closest I will ever come to owning an original? Oh well, nice to dream.


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 Post Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:36 am 
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Just to pull up this cool thread, I'd like to guess which songs Mike may have used this guitar on...

Listen to Her Heart (?) [he definately used it on a broadcast of The Old Grey Whistle Test]
Here Comes My Girl
Casa Dega
The Waiting (?) [he at least uses it in the video of the song]
Keeping Me Alive (seen in Runnin' Down a Dream)
Stories We Could Tell (from RDAD, I can't see it all the way, but he appears to be playing it)
Turning Point (sure sounds like it)
It Ain't Nothin' to Me (the solo, possibly?)
Don't Come Around Here No More (some parts?)
So You Want to Be a Rock & Roll Star (live, seen on YouTube)
Free Fallin' (I hear some 12-string jangle in that song, perhaps he was using his 60's 360/12NS instead?)
I'll Feel a Whole Lot Better (Petty's cover of this Byrds hit)
A Face in the Crowd

I think after Full Moon Fever is when he stopped using it.

Studiotwosession, when you get some time, do you think you could provide us pics of your replica? I'm interested in seeing what it looks like (yes, I know there is a photo here, but I'm interested in seeing the full thing)


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 Post Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:55 am 
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Sure. Send my your email and I'll send you the pix.


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Just sent you an email, can't wait to see them!


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 Post subject: Re: 625/12
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Here are two vids (both uploaded by me from my VHS tapes) of Mike with this guitar in action:

Listen to Her Heart (The Old Grey Whistle Test, June 1978)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qZpBhi04IoI

Here Comes My Girl (Rock Goes to College, March 1980)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ur4buwv0rRc


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Listen to Her Heart (The Old Grey Whistle Test, June 1978)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qZpBhi04IoI


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