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 Post subject: Re: 4001S Bass Question
 Post Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:27 am 
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and more info on the 4001s models ..



4001S
The designation "S" stands for "Special"
This bass is a simplified "no frills" model of the 4001. This bass is also known as export model "1999" sold in Europe by the Rose, Morris & Company.
Features: Horse shoe bridge pickup, toaster neck pickup, separate volume and tone controls, mono output, unbound body, 9 dot inlays, unbound Padouk fingerboard, clear plastic finger rest, truss rods adjust at head.
1964 - Introduced
1967 - Bridge with understring mute was added (1967?) - Bridge with under string mutes was added 1969(1967?) - Discontinued being sold by Rose Morris
1980 - Reintroduced as standard US model with center stripe walnut laminate, high gain neck pickup, high gain bridge pickup and cover, no finger rest.
1986(1984?)(1985?) - Discontinued (replaced by 4003S model


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 Post subject: Re: 4001S Bass Question
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then there are the re-issue basses

The 4001v63, the 4001cs, and the 4001c64, these were made at various times in the 80s, 90,s and the c64 is still being made ...

Note all of the re-issue basses have a 4003 neck ... they are a modern bass with modern truss rods ...

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 Post subject: Re: 4001S Bass Question
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Those Fender flats are real heavy tension. Take them off and replace them with D'addario's or something lighter. You'll probably find the neck is in much better shape.


D'Addario Chromes on a 4003 sound great. I just strung on a set this week and love them. I had tried a set of Fender flatwounds ($13 just to try flats) and with two sets on two basses I find the E string vibrates in a warble. Not so with the Chromes. Of course they're twice the price...

[edit] I can verify the higher tension on the Fenders as I had to adjust the rods putting them on and also after taking them off.

BTW, I felt blasphemous putting Fenders on a Ric!! :D


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 Post subject: Re: 4001S Bass Question
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You should feel blasphemous when comitting blasphemy, hee hee.

I've used D'Adderio roundwounds on all my basses for several years now. I did try Chromes one time, but they sounded really dull to me, so I'm sticking to rounds.


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 Post subject: Re: 4001S Bass Question
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D'Addario roundwounds rule.


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 Post subject: Re: 4001S Bass Question
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OK, you've sold me. Off with the Fenders and on with the better strings! Thanks for the tips.


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 Post subject: Re: 4001S Bass Question
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... I did try Chromes one time, but they sounded really dull to me, so I'm sticking to rounds.


They do have a thump sound, very clean though. Not the piano string sound of roundwounds, which the RIC tone emphasises. Chromes have more of the bass spectum of the tone, but you can still tell its a Ric. It was more to what I was looking for, YMMV.


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 Post subject: Re: 4001S Bass Question
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The chromes would be great if I ever started playing in a jazz band, so if I do, I'll probably get them again. However, the music I play, I really need the bass to sound mean and growly, so it'll D'Adderio roundwounds until then.

I'm curious about trying the Rickenbacker strings, though, so I might put them on to see how that sounds.


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 Post subject: Re: 4001S Bass Question
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Ric5- That's some interesting info on the 4001. There are a few anomalies. My son's 4001 (UB6XX - Feb.'81) has neck through construction with a full-length skunk stripe. Having pulled it from it's case to have a look, I can see that he hasn't wiped it down recently. Another anomaly, and grounds for a butt-chewing! It has a beautiful Burgundy-Glo finish with sweaty gunk on it. One of these days! -Dr.Phil


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 Post subject: Re: 4001S Bass Question
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I don't think all of that info is 100% correct ... but it is right most of the time ...

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