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 Post Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 1:15 am 
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I am currently playing two basses that belong to my Dad, and have been saving up to buy a bass of my own.

I am a big Rush and Beatles fan, and have been thinking about buying a Rickenbacker 4003, but I have a few questions about the instrument before I invest time in trying to find a place where I can try one out.


1. What is the difference between the 4001 and the 4003?
2. Is the 4003 good for slapping and popping? (I play a lot of Claypool stuff, and I don't want a bass that feels like its going to fall apart)


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 Post Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 1:44 am 
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I am currently playing two basses that belong to my Dad, and have been saving up to buy a bass of my own.

I am a big Rush and Beatles fan, and have been thinking about buying a Rickenbacker 4003, but I have a few questions about the instrument before I invest time in trying to find a place where I can try one out.


1. What is the difference between the 4001 and the 4003?
2. Is the 4003 good for slapping and popping? (I play a lot of Claypool stuff, and I don't want a bass that feels like its going to fall apart)


Although I will not receive my 4003 until next week, I've done a lot of research on the 4003/4001 before I made my decision. I've read a lot of coments from bass players about the 4003 not being the best choice for slap/pop. I don't play that style so perhaps someone else might comment on that one.

However, to compare the 4001/4003 (current models) just go to Models/Compare/Basses and then check the box for the 4003 and the 4001C64 the click "Submit". That will bring up a comparison of their specs.


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 Post Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 1:56 am 
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However, to compare the 4001/4003 (current models) just go to Models/Compare/Basses and then check the box for the 4003 and the 4001C64 the click "Submit". That will bring up a comparison of their specs.


Is the 4001C64 what Paul and Geddy played? I am completely new to this Rickenbacker stuff.


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 Post Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 2:22 am 
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The 4003 is simply the updated 4001. It is a better overall bass with hotter pickups and more straightforward truss rod system. I don't care for slap/pop style myself, but I've heard people who do say they have no problem with abusing the 4001/4003 that way. I believe Claypool even has a 4003.


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 Post Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 2:48 am 
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Yeah. I knew he had one, I just didn't know how much abuse it can take. Thanks.


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 Post Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 2:58 am 
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The 4001 has had the current high gain pickups since sometime in 1972 (I believe)so if you wanted the older toaster at the neck position and the lower gain bridge pickup you'd need to get a 4001 from the 60's or very early 70's. That will cost you. You could put a toaster pickup at the neck on a new 4003 and do the cap mod if your new 4003 wasn't made after Dec 2005 to get close to the pre-72 sound.

The 4003 has the new style truss rods, and the 4001 has the old style rods, which are not as easy to adjust. The new rods allow any bass string to be put on whereas the 4001 could not safely take high tension strings, be they round or flat wounds. The 4001 has a bit narrower neck than the 4003, but playing my 4003 I can't imagine it being thinner.

Go and play one and then be prepared to buy!! Oh, also they are built like a tank, besides being beautiful, sexy, and a blast to play.


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 Post Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 3:42 am 
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The 4001 has had the current high gain pickups since sometime in 1972 (I believe)so if you wanted the older toaster at the neck position and the lower gain bridge pickup you'd need to get a 4001 from the 60's or very early 70's. That will cost you. You could put a toaster pickup at the neck on a new 4003 and do the cap mod if your new 4003 wasn't made after Dec 2005 to get close to the pre-72 sound.

The 4003 has the new style truss rods, and the 4001 has the old style rods, which are not as easy to adjust. The new rods allow any bass string to be put on whereas the 4001 could not safely take high tension strings, be they round or flat wounds. The 4001 has a bit narrower neck than the 4003, but playing my 4003 I can't imagine it being thinner.

Go and play one and then be prepared to buy!! Oh, also they are built like a tank, besides being beautiful, sexy, and a blast to play.



Why does the 4003 have to be made before December 2005 in order to put a toaster pickup in?


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 Post Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 3:58 am 
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Why does the 4003 have to be made before December 2005 in order to put a toaster pickup in?


You can put in a toaster pickup no matter what- he meant if you want to do the capacitor mod (add a capacitor to the bridge pickup for the vintage sound) it would have to be a pre-2006 model, because a new standard feature is a push-pull capacitor bypass on the treble tone knob.


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 Post Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 6:12 am 
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Oh. Well, I doubt I'll mess with the pickup if I get one. I'm only 15, and after paying over a thousand dollars for a bass, I don't think I'll have any money left over to buy a new pickup.


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 Post Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:48 am 
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Why does the 4003 have to be made before December 2005 in order to put a toaster pickup in?


You can put in a toaster pickup no matter what- he meant if you want to do the capacitor mod (add a capacitor to the bridge pickup for the vintage sound) it would have to be a pre-2006 model, because a new standard feature is a push-pull capacitor bypass on the treble tone knob.


What he said. Hey, I knew what I was talking about! :D


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