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 Post subject: High Gain neck + Horseshoe ?
 Post Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:44 am 
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Looked for a bit but found nothing on this combo.
Any comments on using a high gain in the neck and a horseshoe bridge pickup?
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Thanks to all for advice!


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 Post subject: Re: High Gain neck + Horseshoe ?
 Post Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:21 am 
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I have a RIHS in my 4003 with the stock high gain and use it on most of the stuff my band plays. I find the high gain balances better with the RIHS than when I tried using a toaster. I honestly can't say the RIHS sounds a lot different than the original high gain, but the vintage vibe the piece has can't be beat.


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 Post subject: Re: High Gain neck + Horseshoe ?
 Post Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 2:31 pm 
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I installed a RIHS pickup in my 4001S, which also has a toaster pickup. I have no idea what year this RIHS because I bought it used in a deal along with a used 4003. After I installed it, it way overpowered the toaster pickup. It seems that a new higain would balance well with that RIHS, but I like the toaster/RIHS vibe. So I installed a C64 wiring harness, which helps, but that RIHS is so powerful, you'd never think there was the .0047mf cap in there!

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 Post subject: Re: High Gain neck + Horseshoe ?
 Post Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:51 am 
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The re-issue horseshoe pickup is quite similar to the bridge high gain 4003 pickup. The ohms rating and the tone are similar. So if you swap the high gain for a horseshoe pickup then you won't have a big change in tone. Putting in a neck toaster will give you more of a tone change than the horseshoe pickup.

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 Post subject: Re: High Gain neck + Horseshoe ?
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The toaster does seem to produce less volume but adds a smoother tone in combination with a bridge hi-gain.I think it's also that the neck toaster will not reach as close to the strings as the bridge pickup.


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 Post subject: Re: High Gain neck + Horseshoe ?
 Post Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:54 am 
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Joey, other than the .0047 bass cut cap, how does a C64 harness differe from a regular 4003 harness? Do they use original 60's pot values instead of the 330K pots?


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 Post subject: Re: High Gain neck + Horseshoe ?
 Post Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:27 pm 
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Dane, let me check on them.

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 Post subject: Re: High Gain neck + Horseshoe ?
 Post Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:57 pm 
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aceonbass wrote:
Joey, other than the .0047 bass cut cap, how does a C64 harness differe from a regular 4003 harness? Do they use original 60's pot values instead of the 330K pots?

Dane,

The C64 uses 330K pots according to the schematic.

Apologies for barging in Joey! :oops:

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 Post subject: Re: High Gain neck + Horseshoe ?
 Post Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:14 am 
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antipodean wrote:
aceonbass wrote:
Joey, other than the .0047 bass cut cap, how does a C64 harness differe from a regular 4003 harness? Do they use original 60's pot values instead of the 330K pots?

Dane,

The C64 uses 330K pots according to the schematic.

Apologies for barging in Joey! :oops:

No worries Evan! :) I thought the values were 330K, just wanted to check to be sure.

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 Post subject: Re: High Gain neck + Horseshoe ?
 Post Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:10 am 
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I'm surprised a harness for a vintage reissue instrument would use different pot values than originally specified. When I build harnesses for vintage Ricks, I use original value pots, preferably vintage style CTS pots.


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