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 Post subject: Re: A 4003 with 4004 Humbuckers?
 Post Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:53 pm 
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perhaps I should have said about 11k ohms ... there is a little variance ... also the 4003s5 treble pickup is usually wound to 15k ohms ... toasters are usually wound to around 7k ohms but some toasters are wound to 10-12k ohms ...

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 Post subject: Re: A 4003 with 4004 Humbuckers?
 Post Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:41 pm 
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Here ya go:
http://www.tomthebassplayer.com/4003s.htm#4003S

This bass is an '89 4003S. The high gains measure around 8k. The HB1s around 15k. I tried a HB1 at the bridge, and the high gain at the neck. There was too much of a volume difference and they didn't complement each other with both running together. I bought another HB1, and when I installed it, I realized that it was only running on one coil(!). I kind of liked it at first, but decided to do it right, so I sent it back to POTR and they sent me a new one right away.

So, as far as the sound? I don't know. I like it, but it's a little TOO dark I think. As far as humbuckers go, I have another bass with them (which shall remain nameless, but I will tell you it was built in Nashville)that, to me, sounds better. I've been meaning to post some sound clips with the 4003S panned to one side, and my 4001CS panned to the other. I'll get around to it soon!

Bottom line is, it's a very cool sound and an easy swap. Just remember the 500k volume pots. Oh yeah, the HB1s are super quiet (as far as noise, not overall volume!)


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 Post subject: Re: A 4003 with 4004 Humbuckers?
 Post Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:19 pm 
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Here ya go:
http://www.tomthebassplayer.com/4003s.htm#4003S

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Great Looking Bass. Right up my alley.

Thanks for the advise. Gonna Hot-Rod me one of them puppies.

Thank you all for your input.

Keep Rockin.

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 Post subject: Re: A 4003 with 4004 Humbuckers?
 Post Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:39 am 
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if you want to really brighten up your bass try 1000k ohm pots with the hb1 pickups ...

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 Post subject: Re: A 4003 with 4004 Humbuckers?
 Post Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 3:27 am 
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If you like humbuckers you could try seymour duncan'ss srb1n and srb1b or bartolini's 6RC and 6RT. They are made to fit the 4001/4003. bartolini even has a model tha substitutes the mute so you could have the two original single coils PLUS a humbucker.

As for the sound I find it great, I myself have a bartolini 6RC and a seymour-duncan SRB1b installed in my Gherson (a really good rickenbacker copy: neck through, dual truss rods, stereo output..). I'm waiting for a seymour duncan srb1n and (at last!!) my REAL rickenbacker (a 4003 mapleglo) so I can not compare to the original ric single coils. But the reviews I've read about both the seymour duncans and the bartolinis are all very good


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 Post subject: Re: A 4003 with 4004 Humbuckers?
 Post Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 4:25 am 
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If you like humbuckers you could try seymour duncan'ss srb1n and srb1b or bartolini's 6RC and 6RT. They are made to fit the 4001/4003. bartolini even has a model tha substitutes the mute so you could have the two original single coils PLUS a humbucker.

If this would be a copy, I'd go with Bartolini's as well.

But I do want to keep it all RIC with as valuable and beautiful an instrument as the 4003.

Thanx for the input though.

GH


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 Post subject: Re: A 4003 with 4004 Humbuckers?
 Post Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:36 am 
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Not to be bitchy, but why buy a RIC and change it up, This I dont understand. If you like the hb1's buy a 4004, It doesnt make since to me to buy a 4003 and F it up. Just my opinion and it is not pointed at anyone. :)


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 Post subject: Re: A 4003 with 4004 Humbuckers?
 Post Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:17 am 
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Not to be bitchy, but why buy a RIC and change it up, This I don't understand. If you like the hb1's buy a 4004, It doesn't make since to me to buy a 4003 and F it up. Just my opinion and it is not pointed at anyone. :)


The 4004L is a Sally Rand ( That's a stripper for those of you that are to young to remember)
The 4003 looks much better, more detail such as binding
and nice looking hardware and has stereo outs.
Other then the Bubinga wood for the fretboard on the 4004L
or the Rosewood on the 4003, they seem to be identical as far as construction is concerned.
So it's mostly looks.
That's why.
Think of it as an "enhancement" rather then a Fup.
I'm an entertainer and a player, not a collector or a purist.My public demands that I and my instrument look and sound good!!
:)

GH


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 Post subject: Re: A 4003 with 4004 Humbuckers?
 Post Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:47 am 
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This I understand, Iam also a player of some 33yrs, I have played it all. Im also a purest, Nothing beats the sound of a stock 4003 in my opinion, with a turn of some knobs, i can get any sound I need except the fretless sound. But I try to understand why people do what they do. For me, it a stock 4003 all the way.:)


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 Post subject: Re: A 4003 with 4004 Humbuckers?
 Post Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 2:44 pm 
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If this would be a copy, I'd go with Bartolini's as well.

But I do want to keep it all RIC with as valuable and beautiful an instrument as the 4003.

Thanx for the input though.

GH



Of course, when I get my brand new 4003 (hopefully 3 months from now) I will not mess with anything not to s___w it up. Promised!!


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