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 Post subject: Re: A 4003 with 4004 Humbuckers?
 Post Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:39 pm 
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Not to be bitchy, but why buy a RIC and change it up, This I dont understand. If you like the hb1's buy a 4004, It doesnt make since to me to buy a 4003 and F it up. Just my opinion and it is not pointed at anyone. :)


For the sake of argument, and also NOT pointed at anyone:
I don't understand this sentiment of "don't ever change anything on your bass!" I see this question posted often - "why buy a Ric and then try to change the sound?"
Well, here's my list of answers:
1)Feel
2)Looks
3)Quality
4)Construction method (neck through)
5)Wood selection (maple/rosewood)
6)Value

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the Ric tone. I've got a 4001CS that gives me the ultimate classic Ric tone. And they are more versatile than a lot of uninformed people give them credit for. But, there are other "flavors" to be had. As far as buying a 4004 to get the HB1s, I just like the vintage look of a 4003 better.


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 Post subject: Re: A 4003 with 4004 Humbuckers?
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:45 am 
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quote] As far as buying a 4004 to get the HB1s, I just like the vintage look of a 4003 better.


Amen to that.

As an afterthought:
I don't think you will find any of the major players out on stage or in the studio, that play a stock instrument.Everybody has a tech that tweaks the Ax to where they want it to be.That goes for signature models as well.
I know, I been there.

:)

GH

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 Post subject: Re: A 4003 with 4004 Humbuckers?
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 6:49 am 
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I guess im just a purest to the max. I have three rics and one on order and they are all stock. I dont do a lot of big time recording, but what recording i do, my rics serve me fine. As my grandfather use to say, everyone has their way of going things and if changing your ric to fit your gig makes you happy, then my hats off to ya. Peace ;)
ps. where is stump town?


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 Post subject: Re: A 4003 with 4004 Humbuckers?
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:47 pm 
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ps. where is stump town?


StumpTown = Portland, Oregon


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 Post subject: Re: A 4003 with 4004 Humbuckers?
 Post Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:07 am 
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I don't think there is a bass I have owned over the past 35 years that I didn't do some kind of tweak or mod to. That includes Rickenbackers, Zons, Alembics, Yamahas, Fenders, Rick Turners, you get the idea!


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 Post subject: Re: A 4003 with 4004 Humbuckers?
 Post Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:07 am 
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to each is there on, My hats off to yea. I guess some people are not happy with the factory specs. I do have a luther adjust my strings and set up the neck, but thats it. I do all my sound changes with the knobs on the bass and amp settings.


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 Post subject: Re: A 4003 with 4004 Humbuckers?
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 8:40 am 
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Has anyone played with that?
Is it possible to order one like that?

Appreciate your thoughts.

GH

Reply: contact Ric5 fromt he forum. He may have used thta in his conversions.


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 Post subject: Re: A 4003 with 4004 Humbuckers?
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 8:47 am 
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This I understand, Iam also a player of some 33yrs, I have played it all. Im also a purest, Nothing beats the sound of a stock 4003 in my opinion, with a turn of some knobs, i can get any sound I need except the fretless sound. But I try to understand why people do what they do. For me, it a stock 4003 all the way.:)

Reply: i know the 4001 bass had a damper pad in the bridge to set up a fretless sound. I have never seen a 4003 in person. dosen't have a damper pad in the bridge?


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 Post subject: Re: A 4003 with 4004 Humbuckers?
 Post Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 9:17 am 
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This I understand, Iam also a player of some 33yrs, I have played it all. Im also a purest, Nothing beats the sound of a stock 4003 in my opinion, with a turn of some knobs, i can get any sound I need except the fretless sound. But I try to understand why people do what they do. For me, it a stock 4003 all the way.:)

Reply: i know the 4001 bass had a damper pad in the bridge to set up a fretless sound. I have never seen a 4003 in person. dosen't have a damper pad in the bridge?


Yes, the 4003 has a damper pad - just like a 4001.


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 Post subject: Re: A 4003 with 4004 Humbuckers?
 Post Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 4:58 pm 
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a 4003 owner can purchase 2 hb1 pickups and install them ... you will need a little skill with a screw driver and a soldering iron ... you will have to purchase a couple of extra screws and nuts from your hardware store ... also I would suggest that you install 500k volume pots ... with the existing 250 volume pots your 4003 will sound a little dark with the hb1 pickups ...
The 4003 comes stock with 250k volume pots and 500k ohm tone pots ... to make the bass a little warmer swap out the tone pots for 250k ohm pots ... this works nicely on a 4001 bass with the 8k ohm high gain pickups and the toaster pickups as well ...

I'm a new joiner on the Ric forum and am just looking to revive this thread rather than start a whole new one on the same topic ....

Does the 4003 have different pots than the 4001? I have an old 4001 that I love; I got it secondhand, and it has a Bartolini 'bucker in the bridge (and a bastardized SD Quarter-pounder in the neck, I think!). They sound all right, but I really like the tones I've heard from the HB1s in the 4004s (eh, I'm a Lemmy-junkie ;)

I thought about getting the Bart rewound (by a nice pick-up maker here in the UK, Bare Knuckle), but it's resin-potted, so no can do. But if replacing swapping HB1s into a 4003 is that easy, then it ought to be pretty much the same for a 4001. But after reading this thread, I thought I should ask about the pots, whether the stock 4001 tone pots would be 500k ohm like the 4003's?

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