Board index » Just Basses




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 8 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Is my Rickenbacker 4001 fake?
 Post Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:00 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Jul 20, 2006 9:53 pm
Posts: 4
Location: Campinas - SP - Brazil
Folks,
I have a rickenbacker 4001 which I bought (used) many years ago and I am selling it now, but I'm worried about its authenticity... It doesn't have a serial number at the metal plate near the imputs... does it mean that it is fake?

If you could, please take a look at its desciption (in portuguese, sorry) and pictures at

http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB- ... l-1971-_JM

Any coments please send to this forum or to bonadiver@hotmail.com

If convinced that its fake I'll be glad to remove it from the auction

Thanks
Clauber


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Is my Rickenbacker 4001 fake?
 Post Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:29 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2005 1:00 pm
Posts: 44
Location: Toronto
It's difficult to tell from those photos. But I can tell you the tailpiece is not original to the bass. The one on the bass has the split in the center of it. RIC changed the design and stopped putting the split style tailpiece on the 4001 in early 73. This bass is post early 73.

Remove the truss rod cover to see if there are 2 rods in the neck. Most of the copies used one rod.
You can also remove the pickguard assemby from the bass to see what electronic components are installed. A 4001 should have two .047 and one .0047 capacitors installed in it, unless someone removed them. Plus there's often some writing (initials or model, colour) inside the body cavity that would have been put there by RIC employees at the time of manufacture.

If it is a copy it would be either a Greco or Ibanez.

TD


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Is my Rickenbacker 4001 fake?
 Post Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:12 pm 
Offline
Site Admin
Site Admin

Joined: Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:00 pm
Posts: 3870
Location: Santa Ana, CA
Based on the somewhat small photo there, I'm inclined to believe this is not fake. However those items mentioned above would be futher clues, altough since this has modern 4003 details, the capacitor info is irrelevant.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Is my Rickenbacker 4001 fake?
 Post Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:27 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:00 pm
Posts: 1101
Location: NE Ohio
Quote:
Folks,
It doesn't have a serial number at the metal plate near the imputs... does it mean that it is fake?


The S/N on the earlier instruments were silkscreened on to the jackplate and can and does wear off. This may be the case with your bass.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Is my Rickenbacker 4001 fake?
 Post Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:54 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:00 pm
Posts: 53
Location: Seattle, Washington
Looks real to me.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Is my Rickenbacker 4001 fake?
 Post Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:58 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Aug 09, 2005 1:00 pm
Posts: 296
Location: Baltimore,MD
Its a real Ric! its not a 71[no mop inlays]it may be a late 73 thru early 75 it has all the correct parts on it, it has grovers hi gains, the neck pickup is in the half inch spacing[73-75] and the tailpiece is correct.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Is my Rickenbacker 4001 fake?
 Post Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:48 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Aug 21, 2005 1:00 pm
Posts: 217
Location: Lisbon, Portugal, EUROPE
That pickguard looks home-made to me. Also, the neck pickup looks a bit funky, but it could be my eyes... And yes, the bridge assembly is from an older 4001, and obviously has seen better days. As for the neck pickup, a rewind job is in order.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Is my Rickenbacker 4001 fake?
 Post Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:26 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu Jul 20, 2006 9:53 pm
Posts: 4
Location: Campinas - SP - Brazil
I thank you all for the comments and tips. It's nice to hear from most of you that it's probaly a real Rick. I'll keep investigating until I'm sure.
Thanks again for all contibutions


Top 
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
 
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 8 posts ] 

Board index » Just Basses


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 3 guests

 
 

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  

Register    Login    Forum    Search    FAQ
X