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 Post subject: Re: 4005 RISSUE
 Post Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:25 am 
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I would consider the 4005 to be a fully hollow body instrument as there is no center block running down the middle of the body, just an X brace, plus a block only at the slope for the R tailpiece.


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 Post Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:30 am 
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I think the best way to think of a 4005 is as a bass version of a 360.


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 Post subject: Re: 4005 RISSUE
 Post Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:03 am 
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I f they were willing to set up a pre order registry I would order today. I they would reproduce the 6 string I would order two. I would even wait a couple of years for them to come as long a I had hope that some day a real Ric 4005 or a real ric 4005-6. The comment by Mr.Hall "at least not for the next couple of years gives a glimmer of hope.

PLEASE, PLEASE , PLEASE?????

I'm asking nicely hear.


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 Post subject: Re: 4005 RISSUE
 Post Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:06 am 
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Hey there is a 4005 on ebay for $14,000.00 I won't spend 14 k on a bass but $1500.00 to say $3000.00 sounds a little more reasonable. Would this be possible by the Ric people?


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 Post subject: Re: 4005 RISSUE
 Post Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:34 am 
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we should start a list of people who want and can afford a 4005 ri i will start
1.robert jamieson


How do you know you can afford one if you don't know what they would cost, robert jamieson?


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 Post subject: Re: 4005 RISSUE
 Post Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:43 am 
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Certainly I realize this has been discussed time and again in the forums here, and so, I realize that the answer is pretty much a big no.
But I think, before we see a certain horsey, that I will use this moment to say:
I WANT ONE. When I first became aware of Rickenbackers at all, it was a 4005 that instantly caught my eye as the bass for me. I didn't know they were so expensive, even then. But I will have one. Oh, yes. Someday I will have one.
That is all. Bring on the horse.


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 Post subject: Re: 4005 RISSUE
 Post Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:32 am 
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How much more would a 4005 cost to manufacture than a 360 or a 381 presuming most of the tooling exists? To be honest I've been a RIC fan for years, and NEVER heard of, or saw, a 381 prior to their re-issue. Maybe the 4005 tooling no longer exists, but the 381 tooling survived. A new 4005 would probably be a bigger hit than the 381 which seems to have largely been a dud. I wonder what the story is with the 4005 tooling stuff.


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 Post subject: Re: 4005 RISSUE
 Post Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:32 am 
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Yeah, I see that this might be in the realms of the wishful. I personally wouldn't want one, but I see that there may be interest.

Now, if the 4003 S ever got reissued with cool monochromatic finishes (redneck, blackstar, tuxedo) or in a 5 string version, well... that would be different.


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 Post subject: Re: 4005 RISSUE
 Post Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:51 am 
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How much more would a 4005 cost to manufacture than a 360 or a 381 presuming most of the tooling exists?
You're kidding me, right? The additional wood alone would be a huge cost.

As I've said before tooling costs would be in the hundreds of thousands of dollars, amortized over a very small number of instruments.

If it ever returned, it would have to be in the upper $4000 price range, maybe even more. The last time we discussed a real suggested retail, most people suddenly weren't interested.
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Maybe the 4005 tooling no longer exists, but the 381 tooling survived.
Not true- it was retooled from the ground up.
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A new 4005 would probably be a bigger hit than the 381 which seems to have largely been a dud.
Again you must be kidding: the 381 is one of our most popular instruments (as well as one of the most backlogged), without a doubt the flagship of our product line. It's also a beautiful looking instrument, not a donkey-dong looking thing.


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 Post subject: Re: 4005 RISSUE
 Post Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:08 am 
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Maybe the 4005 tooling no longer exists.


As has been stated, new tooling for a 4005 "Reissue" would involve additional expense for RIC.

Back in August of 2005, a post about the reissue of the 4005 by CEO John Hall stated "My personal opinion is that the market isn't as large for this item as most people think, at least at the price point we'd have to get to support the tooling necessary."

That applied to the 4005 reissue then and it still applies today. If the demand for this model makes it cost effective for RIC to manufacture, then a possible reissue gets closer to reality.


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