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 Post subject: Amp EQ levels for your Ric ??
 Post Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:38 am 
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I'm now getting the best sound ever from my 4001, after I put in a new treble pick up and had a long overdue set up done.

Ironically, it gives me so much more that I have to re-think my EQ's. The unique Ric sound from the neck and treble p/up can really give you such a good full response on notes past the 5th fret, but if I turn down the bass frequencies to tame them, the first 5 frets lose a bit ....

I have a Fender Jazz and that needs more bass - it's pretty easy to handle to signal, but the Ric tone is like a Treasure Chest: full of nice surprises. I have a 7 band graphic EQ on my amp, and for the Ric I set it in sort of a 'W' at the moment but I'm constantly fiddling

How do you like to set your EQ's for your Ric bass? Or do you leave it flat and let the bass do the work?



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 Post subject: Re: Amp EQ levels for your Ric ??
 Post Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:55 am 
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I avoid amps with graphic eq's, just because it gives you so many fine tunings. I like knobs, I'm simple, and usually boost the lows a bit, scoop the mids a bit, and put the treble on 3 oclock or so. With a graphic eq, you should probably start with everything flat, then one band at a time, boost and lower each slider to hear that frequency. You could then dial up the frequencies you like, and lose the muddy ones, it's a bit time consuming, but well worth the effort, since you'll have a more even response and tone than I will with my silly little knobs.


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 Post subject: Re: Amp EQ levels for your Ric ??
 Post Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:29 am 
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I use chromes with a 4004, so all I do is boost the mids!


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 Post subject: Re: Amp EQ levels for your Ric ??
 Post Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:40 am 
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I run mine flat and let the Ric do the work!


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 Post subject: Re: Amp EQ levels for your Ric ??
 Post Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 3:19 am 
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I've always folowed traditional bass eq wisdom & scooped the mids, but wondered why I couldn't get the sound I wanted.
It seems Ricks love mids, particularly some of the upper mids.
Try boosting these frequencies, where you'd normally cut 'em.

It's a whole new ballgame after that!
Still gotta boost the low end compared to a Fender, but man what a sound!


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 Post subject: Re: Amp EQ levels for your Ric ??
 Post Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:56 am 
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I've always folowed traditional bass eq wisdom & scooped the mids, but wondered why I couldn't get the sound I wanted.
It seems Ricks love mids, particularly some of the upper mids.
Try boosting these frequencies, where you'd normally cut 'em.

It's a whole new ballgame after that!
Still gotta boost the low end compared to a Fender, but man what a sound!


agree, but depends what Fender you mean ...my Jazz lacks the Bass Punch of the Ric's neck p/up. I'm sure A P would match the fat, but I'm actually contemplating putting sometihnf new in the middle of my jazz ...I have an EMG 35HZ - I think it would beef it up whilst keeping the J sound


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 Post subject: Re: Amp EQ levels for your Ric ??
 Post Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 9:47 am 
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Just a bit of an off topic question...

I've heard the term "scoop the mids" everywhere, but I don't know what it means. I've got my Mid knob on my amp set to its max. Is that scooping? If not, what is?


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 Post subject: Re: Amp EQ levels for your Ric ??
 Post Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:44 am 
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Scooping, is essentially cutting the mids, not boosting them. After reading some posts here on this forum, I've started boosting the upper mids, nice change to my sound, whodda thunk it?


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 Post subject: Re: Amp EQ levels for your Ric ??
 Post Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:08 am 
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Exactly!
I was totally surprised when those added mids actually sounded great.

A 'scooped' sound is easiest to visualize when using a graphic eq.
Picture a bowl shape created by the slider knobs: boosted lows & highs, & 'scooped' out mids.

A bit harder to achieve (either scooped or boosted) if all you have is one mid control, a little easier with a parametric mid.
It's quite impossible with an old school amp that just has treble & bass controls, unless you use a separate eq.

Oh yeah, the Fender in question was a P bass, then later I added a J pickup near the bridge, which added some better definition.
A decent bass, but I'm a Rickenbacker player through and through I guess!
I really did try & give the P an honest chance. It did give me a really nice upright sound with the proper amp settings. Great for slow rock & roll and R&B classics (Stand by Me, etc.).
Now I use the mute, play over the neck, & roll off the tone a little.


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 Post subject: Re: Amp EQ levels for your Ric ??
 Post Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:23 am 
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Okay. I had no idea what it meant.

I get the best sound with a high mid setting. Like a guy said earlier, Ricks love mids.


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