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 Post Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:16 am 
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Interesting, well I know they have sort of light colored cabinets, very late 50s, early 60s looking.

I think he said he had the tweeter in one or both replaced in recent years, though he also said at one point he considered parting with them. And he has a more modern pair, just a few years old, of what look like the same thing in his other house (media room.)

Anyway, Paul, they're cool. That's for sure.


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 Post subject: Re: Let's see some photos!
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i assumed the 650s were the same with the exception of the body wings and plating of the hardware... am i wrong?


Guess what a Dakota with knots and sap runs becomes?


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Paul, "sounds" like a nice intimate system. I've got a fair amount of old tube equipment, but no room to put a decent system together to listen to. So I wait until I get the basement cleaned out (kids moved out; their junk didn't!) to do it right.


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Guess what a Dakota with knots and sap runs becomes?


A Colorado?

Then why do they cost MORE?

AND... are the necks the same size?
I've seen it reported SEVERAL times that the Dakota has the biggest necks among the 650 series.

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Guess what a Dakota with knots and sap runs becomes?


A Colorado?

Then why do they cost MORE?

AND... are the necks the same size?
I've seen it reported SEVERAL times that the Dakota has the biggest necks among the 650 series.



My guess would be the extra cost for the Colorado would be due to the CV finish against an oiled finish, production cost would be no different before the finish was applied therefore it must be down to the cost of the finishing.

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The Colorado undergoes a more labor intensive process than the Dakota (sealer, color shading, clear coats, buffing, etc.) Dakotas a straight shot from the woodshop to assembly where they are hand oiled and put together.

Apart from the odd walnut Colorado, ALL 650's are built exactly the same. Maybe you're thinking of the 620's which have thinner necks?


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Ben,

Doctorno says, "On the 650D the neck is a little beefier than on the 650C"

I've never played the Colorado.
You're saying it's in his head?
I'd like to know. Don't pull any punches.


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I believe Ben has answered this. He said the Colorados are Dakotas that the wood isn't of the clearness for a clearcoated finish so they are painted to Colorados. So the necks are identical because they are the same guitar up to the point of culling.

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"Guess what a Dakota with knots and sap runs becomes?"


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The Colorado undergoes a more labor intensive process than the Dakota (sealer, color shading, clear coats, buffing, etc.) Dakotas a straight shot from the woodshop to assembly where they are hand oiled and put together.

Apart from the odd walnut Colorado, ALL 650's are built exactly the same.


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 Post subject: Re: Let's see some photos!
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I'll say this one last time and then I'll leave this thread.

ALL 650'S HAVE THE SAME WIDTH NECK.

If anyone thinks otherwise they are dead wrong.


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 Post subject: Re: Let's see some photos!
 Post Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 11:09 am 
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Sorry all. Didn't want to irritate anyone, I just wanted a straight answer. Thanks for that, and forgive my inadvertant provocation.


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