Board index » Rick restoration from part to finish




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 42 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: The New UV Cured Finish
 Post Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:37 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:00 pm
Posts: 1330
Location: Long Beach, California
Quote:
In reality, the yellowing of the finish IS a problem. Ideally, you'd like the finish to stay just like the day it was put on forever.

It's just that since the yellowing was a fact of life as the CV finishes aged, lots of us got used to the look and ended up seeing an imperfection in the material as a desirable feature.

Funny how people can be...

-cj


True-just like some collectors/players go ga ga over finish checking.

I like the look of both new MG and aged MG; to me it's the same as finding two different shades of a color appealing.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The New UV Cured Finish
 Post Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:49 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:20 pm
Posts: 447
Just as long as it doesn't have that "bug in plastic" look so many of the imports have, this new stuff sounds pretty good.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The New UV Cured Finish
 Post Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:58 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:00 pm
Posts: 410
Location: Virginia, USA
Quote:
In reality, the yellowing of the finish IS a problem. Ideally, you'd like the finish to stay just like the day it was put on forever.



Not necessarily. Depends on what it looked like originally.

My 360/12 MG came out looking as pale as Johnny Winter.
I’m hoping the “yellowing” will result in a richer, warmer color.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The New UV Cured Finish
 Post Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:53 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:58 am
Posts: 1333
Location: En Zed
Quote:
Quote:
In reality, the yellowing of the finish IS a problem. Ideally, you'd like the finish to stay just like the day it was put on forever.



Not necessarily. Depends on what it looked like originally.

My 360/12 MG came out looking as pale as Johnny Winter.
I’m hoping the “yellowing” will result in a richer, warmer color.


Well, I was speaking about the theoretically ideal finish. An ideal finish would never change. Aesthetically speaking, lots of people prefer the yellowing, especially on certain colors (or non-colors in the case of MG).

That's kind of the whole reason I started this thread, I've seen pictures of some of the new MG's and they are pretty light. I personally like the rich golden hue of the old aged CV. I'm sure others just love the lighter new non-yellowing finish.

Anyway, it sounds as if the new UV finish isn't going to yellow much if at all. For those of us that want that rich warm color, probably the only option is to get it refinished. But I think it'll be a while before we'll be able to get a UV cured refinish.

So, Ben, is it possible to apply CV over the UV finish or are they totally incompatible?

-cj



Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The New UV Cured Finish
 Post Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:01 am 
Offline
Site Admin
Site Admin

Joined: Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:00 pm
Posts: 604
Location: Rickenbacker Headquarters
Quote:

So, Ben, is it possible to apply CV over the UV finish or are they totally incompatible?

-cj



Nope, they are absolutely compatible, no problemo.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The New UV Cured Finish
 Post Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:53 am 
Offline
Site Admin
Site Admin

Joined: Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:00 pm
Posts: 604
Location: Rickenbacker Headquarters
There are certain other "standard" finish items that aren't though...


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The New UV Cured Finish
 Post Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:27 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:10 am
Posts: 618
Location: CT
I've been on the Tayl*r factory tour (who helped to develop UV cured guitars finishes) and in addition to the many benefits already mentioned claim the finish can be thinner to give the guitar better tone, Might it improve the tone of a Rickenbacker as well? Not that it needs any improvement!


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The New UV Cured Finish
 Post Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:47 am 
Offline
Site Admin
Site Admin

Joined: Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:00 pm
Posts: 604
Location: Rickenbacker Headquarters
Yeah I've toured the Taylor factory in person a few times and they definitely have UV cured finishes down to a science.

FWIW, the thinness issue really matters more with acoustics than electrics. The guitars we've tested with UV finishes sound the same as non UV finished guitars.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The New UV Cured Finish
 Post Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:50 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:17 am
Posts: 178
Location: Sydney
I'm quite enjoying learning a bit about the finishing methods and effects in this thread. I am a big fan of the yellowing on my '79 MG and would want any new one I bought to do the same, but it would not hange my mind on getting a new one!

Would a cream binding rather than white ever be an option to counter-act the anti-yellowing UV cured finish?


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: The New UV Cured Finish
 Post Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 12:24 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:54 am
Posts: 113
Location: Minnesota
is Rickenbacker now using a UV clearcoat on new guitars?


Top 
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
 
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 42 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next

Board index » Rick restoration from part to finish


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests

 
 

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  

Register    Login    Forum    Search    FAQ
X