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 Post subject: Re: Les Paul Dies
 Post Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:06 am 
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You're all wrong about which "Les Paul" model guitar he played and why.

The Gibby techs misread the diagram for original 1952 model with the bar/trapeze tailpiece, and made it upside down with the strings coming under the bar, preventing palm muting. I've played one of these that belongs to a friend's father, so early it does not have a serial number, and does have still, after all these decades, the original nickel flatwound strings on it. It's not comfortable for the picking hand, although it sounds great.

That configuration only lasted a year, until they changed to using what is now the bar tailpiece as the combination bridge & tailpiece, stringing it from the front to back, then bringing the strings over. This was better, and lasted a couple of years, but still did not have the ability to precisely intonate the individual strings until the current bridge & tailpiece was invented so that fine intonation adjustments could be made. As Les Paul refined his recording and overdubbing techniques, even the slightest intonation problem was magnified, and the bridge/tailpiece system was developed to rectify the problems any simple straight bar or saddle bridge has. Les Paul adopted this "new" bridge & tailpiece system for his personal instruments.

Gibson started making Les Paul guitars with the pickups they had on hand, the P-90. It was only later, starting in 1957, they started putting the humbuckers in them after they were invented.

BUT, Les Paul himself never cared for high impedance pickups, as he thought they distorted the tone, to which he said something along the lines that they're "OK" if you want to "drive the daylights out of a Marshall." His famous quote out of all his interviews was that since the telephone company used low impedance to get clarity of the voice over long distances, that must be the way to go. So his personal guitars, which were briefly made into production instruments, as the Personal, the Professional, and the Recording, all had low impedance pickups. And even then, he continued to customize his own instrumetns. He even put an XLR jack on the TOP of the guitar so he could mount a goose-necked microphone to have a truly all-in-one setup!

Several things together, including the divorce, the redesign, the quest for new challenges, etc., all contributed to the man leaving the company for awhile. Not the least of these reasons was that the double cutaway version was supposed to be neck-through, not glued on, so the production version did not have all the tone and sustain he thought it could have.


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 Post Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:28 am 
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In any event even though he lived and prospered well into his 90's, Mr. Les is already sorely missed.

His horrendous influence has simply been uncanny.

If Hollywood was ever to make a docudrama of his life, two actors I can think of could have done justice. Either Paul Newman or George C. Scott (both of whom bore a suggestive physical resemblance to Les Paul). -Actor George C. Scott shared similar speech patterns to Paul.

Regrettably, both these extraordinary actors have passed ahead themselves.

So who does that leave among the living to do it?
Kevin Spacey might just fit the bill well, here.


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 Post Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:49 am 
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Robert Redford, who has done a few creative things in his career, might be worth an honorable mention.

Everyone should take a little trip to Harmony Central and read their tribute to this wonderful human being who basically gave us the modern music industry.


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 Post Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:02 pm 
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I watched the Chasing Sound documentary in its entirety on hulu.com this past weekend. It was a good'un.


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 Post Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:55 am 
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Adolph, Leo and Les.....add Chuck Berry, Carl Perkins, Stevie Ray, George Harrison and Jim McGuinn and music leaps into history......

Les Paul, as mentioned in a couple other posts, made it all possible by re-inventing the recording industry and multi-track recording....


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 Post subject: Re: Les Paul Dies
 Post Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:40 am 
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Monday, 06-01-09, 8 PM,Uridium Jazz Club, NYC

In April, my wife and I celebrated our 32nd wedding anniversay. We had always talked about going to NYC to see Les Paul at the Iridium Club, but we never got around to it. My daughter made reservations for the 8:00 show at the Iridium Jazz Club, Monday, 06-01-09. We decided to go on May 29th and come back on June 2nd.

We knew we couldn't see everything, so spent the weekend seeing some of the sights. Saw our first Broadway musical, a Saturday matinee of "Phantom." Found out that Manny's had closed the day before, on Friday. Ground Zero, Am Museum of Natural History, Rockefeller Center, St Pat's Cathedral, Chrysler Bldg, Empire State Bldg., walked over the Brooklyn Bridge We really liked the lawn chairs in Times Square. Even managed to figure out how to use the subway without ending up in Queens, the Bronx, or back in Brooklyn.

Monday night came too quickly and ended too soon. Little did we realize what we were watching...the next-to-the-last public appearance of Les Paul.

Everyone was anticpating his 94th birthday on Thursday and remarking how well he looked for his age. No indication of any illness was seen.

His son was with him. I believe it was Les Jr, selling CD's and DVD's at the door. He looks just like his father. Didn't buy any because we already have 'em. We didn't realize that the reservations were for specific seats. We were seated on the left side table about six seats away from Lou Pallo. I was thinking ahead of time that was where I'd like to be if I had my choice, since I play rythmn guitar at our church. Plus, we could see the whole stage. Okay, we could just see top of John Colianni's head while he played piano. Les' guest that evening was a young saxophonist. The saxophone had all the shiny finish worn off and Les kidded him that it looked like hell. But it sounded great, as did all of the music that evening.

My wife, waiting in line. In the background is the theater where Mama Mia was playing.
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n...l/IMG_0407.jpg

You've seen these before:

Neon sign: Gibson Les Paul Every Monday Night
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n...l/IMG_0417.jpg

Below the ticket window: cover from Chasing Sound
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n...l/IMG_0418.jpg

the stage before the show
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n...l/IMG_0409.jpg

The Monday 06-01-09 8:00 PM Show:

Les and John Collianni
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n...l/IMG_0410.jpg

Lou Pallo and Nicki Parrott
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n...l/IMG_0411.jpg

Lou Pallo, Nicki Parrott and Les (John Colianni is out of sight on the right)
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n...l/IMG_0412.jpg

Lou Pallo
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n...l/IMG_0413.jpg

the guest saxophonist
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n...l/IMG_0415.jpg

Sweet Georgia Brown came too soon
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n...l/IMG_0416.jpg


Tuesday, 06-02-09, 1:15 AM, Uridium Jazz Club

We came back after the 10 o'clock show and joined the end of the line to see Les at 12:30 AM Tuesday morning
I had the pickguard from my Dot with me along with the cover of Chasing Sound.
It's now 1:15 AM...there was along line in front of us.
I thought it would be sign and then he'd say "Next!".......
But when Les saw the pickguard, he asked me to sit down in the booth and aked me what I'd been doing....
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n...l/IMG_0422.jpg

there must have been at least 50 people in line behind us and we're sitting there chatting
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n...l/IMG_0420.jpg

my wife stood in the aisle and just kept taking pictures.....there was a delay...not sure if the battery was going....
she always manages to catch my better side.................
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n...l/IMG_0421.jpg

When he found out I was from the DC area he said, "Will you go back down there and clean up that goddamn mess?"
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n...l/IMG_0422.jpg

I told him that I played in a church group and take music lessons
He told me not to worry about the mistakes and to keep trying and that some day it would all work out.
Unbelievable....totally unexpected.....what a wonderful thing to hear..........
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n...l/IMG_0423.jpg

With out my asking, he just took the DVD cover and signed it.
He confessed that he never had time to sit down and watch it.
I didn't say it but I was thinking, "You don't have to, you lived it."
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n...l/IMG_0424.jpg

He told me was coming to the Smithsonian in August to donate some of his things.
....of course now we know that he never made it........
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n...l/IMG_0425.jpg

I shook his hand, thank him. He wished me well....and it was over.......
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n...l/IMG_0426.jpg

We went back to our hotel room...I never went to sleep...I was all keyed up......
Here's the pickguard and the Dot.....It's an Epiphone....hope you don't mind.....
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n...l/IMG_0430.jpg

........my only regret that evening was that I didn't offer to give Les my tie....not that he probably needed it....if you look closely in some of the photos you can see that it features Les Paul guitars....my wife picked it up at a craft show....not sure if there's a copyright problem so I'll leave it at that........I was just so overwhelmed that I forgot about the tie until I was laying in bed back at the hotel.....dang it........

If you've seen Chasing Sound...you've seen basically the same show......Les made the comment to Nicki that when he looked at her "I know how a new flagpole feels like on an old building".....her comeback to that was a solo...."Why I Like Big Instruments"........and ended with a line something like......"and Les...How come you're stuck with a little instrument like that?".......you just knew the two of them were having a great time........


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 Post Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:05 pm 
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In April, my wife and I celebrated our 32nd wedding anniversay. We had always talked about going to NYC to see Les Paul at the Iridium Club, but we never got around to it. My daughter made reservations for the 8:00 show at the Iridium Jazz Club, Monday, 06-01-09. We decided to go on May 29th and come back on June 2nd.

We knew we couldn't see everything, so spent the weekend seeing some of the sights. Saw our first Broadway musical, a Saturday matinee of "Phantom." Found out that Manny's had closed the day before, on Friday. Ground Zero, Am Museum of Natural History, Rockefeller Center, St Pat's Cathedral, Chrysler Bldg, Empire State Bldg., walked over the Brooklyn Bridge We really liked the lawn chairs in Times Square. Even managed to figure out how to use the subway without ending up in Queens, the Bronx, or back in Brooklyn.

Monday night came too quickly and ended too soon. Little did we realize what we were watching...the next-to-the-last public appearance of Les Paul.

Everyone was anticpating his 94th birthday on Thursday and remarking how well he looked for his age. No indication of any illness was seen.

His son was with him. I believe it was Les Jr, selling CD's and DVD's at the door. He looks just like his father. Didn't buy any because we already have 'em. We didn't realize that the reservations were for specific seats. We were seated on the left side table about six seats away from Lou Pallo. I was thinking ahead of time that was where I'd like to be if I had my choice, since I play rythmn guitar at our church. Plus, we could see the whole stage. Okay, we could just see top of John Colianni's head while he played piano. Les' guest that evening was a young saxophonist. The saxophone had all the shiny finish worn off and Les kidded him that it looked like hell. But it sounded great, as did all of the music that evening.

51st & Broadway:

My wife, waiting in line - in the background is the theater where Mama Mia was playing.

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n238 ... G_0407.jpg

You've seen these before:

The marquee of the Iridium Jazz Club

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n238 ... G_0408.jpg

Neon sign: Gibson Les Paul Every Monday Night

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n238 ... G_0417.jpg

Below the ticket window: cover from Chasin Sound

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n238 ... G_0418.jpg

the stage before the show

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n238 ... G_0409.jpg

The Monday 06-01-09 8:00 PM Show:

Les and John Colianni

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n238 ... G_0410.jpg

Lou Pallo and Nicki Parrott

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n238 ... G_0411.jpg

Lou Pallo, Nicki Parrott and Les (John Colianni is out of sight on the right)

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n238 ... G_0412.jpg

Lou Pallo

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n238 ... G_0413.jpg

the guest saxophonist

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n238 ... G_0415.jpg

Sweet Georgia Brown came too soon

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n238 ... G_0416.jpg

We came back after the 10 o'clock show and joined the end of the line to see Les at 12:30 AM Tuesday morning
I had the pickguard from my Dot with me along with the cover of Chasing Sound.
It's now 1:15 AM...there was along line in front of us.
I thought it would be sign and then he'd say "Next!".......

But when Les saw the pickguard, he asked me to sit down in the booth and aked me what I'd been doing....

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n238 ... G_0419.jpg

there must have been at least 50 people in line behind us and we're sitting there chatting

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n238 ... G_0420.jpg

my wife stood in the aisle and just kept taking pictures.....there was a delay...not sure if the battery was going....
she always manages to catch my better side.................

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n238 ... G_0421.jpg

When he found out I was from the DC area he said, "Will you go back down there and clean up that goddamn mess?"

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n238 ... G_0422.jpg

I told him that I played in a church group and take music lessons
He told me not to worry about the mistakes and to keep trying and that some day it would all work out.
Unbelievable....totally unexpected.....what a wonderful thing to hear..........

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n238 ... G_0423.jpg

With out my asking, he just took the DVD cover and signed it.
He confessed that he never had time to sit down and watch it.
I didn't say it but I was thinking, "You don't have to, you lived it."

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n238 ... G_0424.jpg

He told me was coming to the Smithsonian in August to donate some of his things.
....of course now we know that he never made it........

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n238 ... G_0425.jpg

I shook his hand, thank him. He wished me well....and it was over.......

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n238 ... G_0426.jpg

We went back to our hotel room...I never went to sleep...I was all keyed up......
Here's the pickguard and the Dot.....It's an Epiphone....hope you don't mind.....

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n238 ... G_0430.jpg

...first cousin to The Log.........

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n238 ... G_0429.jpg

........my only regret that evening was that I didn't offer to give Les my tie....not that he probably needed it....if you look closely in some of the photos you can see that it features Les Paul guitars....my wife picked it up at a craft show....not sure if there's a copyright problem so I'll leave it at that........I was just so overwhelmed that I forgot about the tie until I was laying in bed back at the hotel.....dang it........

If you've seen Chasing Sound...you've seen basically the same show......Les made the comment to Nicki that when he looked at her "I know how a new flagpole feels like on an old building".....her comeback to that was a solo...."Why I Like Big Instruments"........and ended with a line something like......"and Les...How come you're stuck with a little instrument like that?".......you just knew the two of them were having a great time........


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 Post Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 4:56 am 
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That was a great post....really enjoyed reading it, and I was touched at the sense of finality--good writing...

Makes my encounter with Bad Company in Chicago back in '75 pale in comparison...all four of them showed up at the club I was playing....our keyboardist had the ba^&* to ask them if they wanted to sit in--HA! They hung around for 2 sets and we had a nice encounter...I would trade it for 5 minutes with Les, Adolph Rickenbacker, Chuck Berry or Leo...


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