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 Post subject: valur of a 75 4001
 Post Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:29 pm 
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I was thinking of buying a 4003 but a guy is after telling me he is thinking of selling his 1975 4001 in fireglow. Would anyone happen to know an aproximate price for this in euro?

And just as a side question...I know Cliff had a 4001, does anyone happen to know the year?


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 Post subject: Re: valur of a 75 4001
 Post Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:30 pm 
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In the states they typically sell for more than a new 4003 if they're in comparable condition, which makes no practical sense. You'd be better off buying a new 4003 unless the guy just wants to sell it cheap. In general, the 4003 is a better bass than the 4001.


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 Post subject: Re: valur of a 75 4001
 Post Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 2:44 pm 
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If the 4001 is in good condition and will cost you less money, get that. If it's beat up and/or if the guy wants more money for it than a new 4003 would cost you, get the 4003.

Cliff's 4001 was late 70's, I think. Like 78 or something like that.


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 Post subject: Re: valur of a 75 4001
 Post Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 3:15 am 
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He wants 1800...A new 4003 is less than 1700. So if anything I'll probably go for that. Thanks for the advice.


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 Post subject: Re: valur of a 75 4001
 Post Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 9:40 pm 
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For a 75 or later 4001 in the USA I would not pay more than $800 USD ... you can get a brand new 4003 for $1100 and a good used 4003 for $900 and a brand new 4004 for $1200 and a used 4004 for $1000 ... in my mind a used 4001 should be less than a brand new 4003 ... unless it is an old rare model ... a mid to late 70s ric is not rare ... now as these instruments start getting 40 years old they may become collectable ... but again there are a lot of them out there ... it is not like we are talking about 60s 4001 basses ... also the newer basses have better neck, better pickups, better truss rods and they have less wear and tear on them ...

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 Post subject: Re: valur of a 75 4001
 Post Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:33 pm 
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Excellent points! There's also warranty with a new 4003 (not that you'll need it in any event), plus the fact that 4003's are built stronger than 4001's.
The older ones are worth quite a bit, but that's mainly due to rarity. Mid to late '70's anything (excluding doublenecks) are NOT rare.
They're nice enough, but $1800 US is VERY high for a run of the mill 4001. FG is the most common (and prettiest,IMHO) color available, so unless it's got the most beautiful figured maple you've ever seen you're better off with a new 4003.


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 Post subject: Re: valur of a 75 4001
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maybe the situation is a little different on the other side of the pond ; in Europe, the 4003 will not be available for most dealers until May '06, and a new 4003 is around 1700 Euros ; thus getting a mid '70 4001 in good condition for 1800 is no nonsense.

In fact, I just got a beautiful '77 MG in mint condition for about the same price. A nice player ! I was dreaming of a CS, but they are very few here, and out of my $ reach


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 Post subject: Re: valur of a 75 4001
 Post Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:01 pm 
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if a new 4003 is 1700 then an old 4001 should be 1400 ... in my opinion ...

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 Post subject: Re: valur of a 75 4001
 Post Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 6:32 pm 
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if a new 4003 is 1700 then an old 4001 should be 1400 ... in my opinion ...

If wish it could be true for all old guitars ! Think of a '60s strat for less than a new Highway strat, or a '59 LP for the price of a new faded Paul !

On ebay or on Gbase, the price for mid '70 is not that low

see : http://www.gbase.com/Stores/Gear/GearLi ... F=1&TI0=20

they go between $1500 and $1800, and with shipment and taxes, it means a lot more here in Europe


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