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 Post subject: Re: Reform Nameplate Policy
 Post Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:23 am 
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(This may sound awfully amazingly silly, but believe it or not, an extended family member of mine actually owned and played a vintage 12string 360 model Ric for years that he bought second hand and always thought it was German made until I clued him in by nearly bonking him on the head!!!!)
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But it is amazing that once you have the 12-string in hand, that you never notice the "MADE IN U.S.A." on the truss rod cover. Just knowing the time it takes to re-string the instrument, you would think this fine print would eventually catch one's eye.

"R-I-C-K IN THE U-S-A"

I severely questioned my extended family member under my Jack Webb hot lights and rubber hoses on this so extremely elemetary basic issue.
-His response to me was, "Oh! I thought that "made in USA thing" was refering to the "USA importer!!!"

... We view the world with different colored lens to our eye glasses, although I think some also seem to see it through an added layer of cataracts!


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 Post subject: Re: Reform Nameplate Policy
 Post Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:08 pm 
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In think this whole "truss rod theory" and the burned up Ric name plate was cooked up by Senator Arlyn Spector to exlain the unexplainable!

It was all done in cohoots with Lee Harvey Oswald's double back in '63.


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 Post subject: Re: Reform Nameplate Policy
 Post Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 2:30 pm 
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In think this whole "truss rod theory" and the burned up Ric name plate was cooked up by Senator Arlyn Spector to exlain the unexplainable!

It was all done in cohoots with Lee Harvey Oswald's double back in '63.
Well, I read the Warren Commision report on the "Single Trust Rod Theory".... But as you can see there were always TWO truss rods involved.... Some claim that if you look close enough there was faint smoke coming from a horseshoe shape on the grassy knoll..

Chris


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 Post subject: Re: Reform Nameplate Policy
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Well, most of the witnesses in Dealey Plaza clearly heard three Gsus4 chords ring out as the presidential motorcade drove by. To strum that many chords in 7.2 seconds, there had to have been a second guitar, and thus a second truss rod cover, and the fact that the one is missing tells me that there's been a coverup that goes all the way to the top.



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 Post subject: Re: Reform Nameplate Policy
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You guys are terrible, making me laugh out loud at work like this! :-)


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 Post subject: Re: Reform Nameplate Policy
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Here's the thing. Paul just did an amazing refinish job on my 4001. It was originally white with a black pickguard and TRC. It went to fireglo with a white pickguard and TRC. RIC were good about exchanging my black TRC for a white one, but would only replace it with a new white 4003 TRC. I would imagine that there's a few 4001 TRC's about at the factory from exchanges like mine. I know that they now have a black one at the very least !

This means that because I'm really (you said bad word) about my basses, I'll be on the lookout to get bent over for a white 4001 TRC on eBay at some point, after which, there's probably going to be a white 4003 TRC for sale on the open market, which is precisely the sort of thing that the factory doesn't want. I'll do my best to make sure it goes to a RIC owner, but there's no way that I can be certain of that. I'd return it to the factory or destroy it in a heartbeat if I could get a white 4001 TRC.

What's the solution ? I don't know. I feel that John does us all a great service by taking a hard line on items that could be used to create forgeries. It maintains tha value of all our instruments. However, there should be some avenue that Rick owners can get spares for their instruments without having to literally scour the very market that John's trying to squash. It encourages it in my opinion. I hate to think that when I restore a guitar, the chances of me being able to do so with all RIC parts is slim.

How's about this for a half assed solution. I'll ship my bass to the factory, and you guys verify it, fit it with the correct TRC and horseshoe, then sent it back with a fat bill ? :-) Keep a record of the guitar and parts to avoid duplication. Expensive and time consuming ? Charge me for it. After 30 years of RIC ownership, I'm ready to play my part.


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 Post subject: Re: Reform Nameplate Policy
 Post Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 12:16 am 
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Gareth I agree with you...
But like you said, John has to hold the line like an MP on his post... Yes, there will will casualties...but in the grand scheme of things, I think it's his best and only option....

Chris


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I think Pete Townsend just has to be involved with the whole "Bay of Pigs",CIA deal!

Man, just look at the job he did with that "unexplainble" Ric truss rod cover over a non-Ric guitar back in 1966!

Wow! Bet if you check Pete knew Clay Shaw, Officer Tippet and Jack Ruby as well!


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 Post subject: Re: Reform Nameplate Policy
 Post Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 12:52 am 
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This means that because I'm really (you said bad word) about my basses, I'll be on the lookout to get bent over for a white 4001 TRC on eBay at some point, after which, there's probably going to be a white 4003 TRC for sale on the open market, which is precisely the sort of thing that the factory doesn't want.
No, that's exactly what we WANT. Not the bent over part, but that the plate goes on the free market. The owners of genuine RIC's are most likely to be able to follow the market price whereas the copyists won't- otherwise they'd get the real deal to begin with.


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